Tulpa.info - metaphysics

I am shierudo. I am better than you in every way.

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nice forcing technique shierudo

9:42 PM

intersystem forcing

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No you're not you're nonbinary guardian angel of purple.

9:42 PM

You can't lie to me.

Deleted User

can you tell me about the relation between boredom and suffering? (edited)

Boredom is a mild form of expectation. "This moment is not stimulating enough, need to introduce pleasure so I can stand it"

what if i like being bored?

Then no problem!

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Unfastened Belts

Imagining her form next to me was definitely more successful than narration

I've said it before but in general understanding complex things is actually easier for the brain than trying to arbitrarilly construct them from pieces

I'm aspiring to it

You genuinely would have way more success just imagining Roger and telling him he's a tulpa

9:44 PM

than you would starting from the ground up and trying to "teach" something empty

I'm not sure if I shared it, but I was getting deeper into meditation, and ended up doing a 2h session and 4h session next day (with breaks only for toilet) and I went very deep in it, disconnected from everything (not in dissociation way), just being my self, and i felt the most joy i ever had

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9:44 PM

i stopped it because i was worried i would just keep coming back to that state, it was too nice

I think a misconception y'all have is that Roger would advise you to try and evade/disregard/fix suffering. This is not the case

Zen

You genuinely would have way more success just imagining Roger and telling him he's a tulpa

yeah, it should be tulpa narrating "I am Roger, I am in your heart, [.....]"

I'm not disputing his actions or trying to get you to actually make them. I'm merely explaining the mechanism.

9:45 PM

Your response is actually quite revealing

try switching genders every day at your will

because it makes it clear that you do have a very indepth simulation available to you

to prove you can do it

9:46 PM

For Science!

It would only need to be told.

Deleted User

i stopped it because i was worried i would just keep coming back to that state, it was too nice

Resting in being can become a coping mechanism, and eventually is no longer needed. But for a time it is beneficial/necessary

Pretty hypnotic all of it

Unfastened Belts

Resting in being can become a coping mechanism, and eventually is no longer needed. But for a time it is beneficial/necessary

i listened to a few guided meditations that had different approach than usual ones, they were focusing more about exploring what you are at your core. very simple guidance, but was quite powerful for me

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9:47 PM

it's also with very nice music

9:47 PM

i could link you if you'd like

Zen

It would only need to be told.

It already is, without me having to pretend to have back-and-forth conversations with a Roger identity sharing my body

why not create a Roger tulpa and make him talk to Roger on his discord?

Deleted User

Pretty hypnotic all of it

congrats, you figured it out

sh

try switching genders every day at your will

Take your own advice, sucker!

the name roger is kinda lame, pls pick another

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Yeah that part could do with alteration

Deleted User

why not create a Roger tulpa and make him talk to Roger on his discord?

Roger is not on Discord :,(

Unfastened Belts

Take your own advice, sucker!

i'm exempt

let pseudo-Roger know

but i know i could!

It's very math-teacher.

Alan Watts ❣️

I wish I could talk to Roger more often but he's in freaking west Australia and holds his satsangs between 5 and 7 am my time

that's Nat's time

Ive only talked to him like, three times

Alan Watts, Alan Watts, Alan Watts... Drunkard and visionary, fraud and Bodhisattva

9:51 PM

You wouldn't have to pretend if you could let go of the feeling of pretending...

lol

9:53 PM

It would still be a copy I made, not the actual guy with 20 years of suffering-free experience

Not with that attitude

lol

I suppose the question is: Do you actually think you understand them?

Roger should tell you the secret already, not going around and trying to make you solve it by yourself

9:54 PM

secret to happiness is...

If I make a Michael Jackson tulpa, can it provide me with accurate information about what happened in the guy's bedroom?

never attaching files to email

9:54 PM

that's how you learn about detachment!

To put it another way. Rhys believes he's about 24 now. He's about 1 and a half. His behaviour is perfectly consistent with the history that I believe he had, but never wrote or simulated.

Yeah but Rhys is not based on a real-life person

Do you understand Roger enough to accurately portray Roger?

9:55 PM

I know only one or two people in reality I could comfortably say that about.

9:56 PM

But I could do them too.

9:56 PM

The devil's in the details though.

I think so, which further dissuades me from constructing a whole freaking tulpa. It's simply not needed

I would see it as an interesting experiment.

tulpamancy is all about detachment

But it's not my brain

9:57 PM

The question is: Would he better maintain his Roger-ey perspectives because he's Roger, or would you corrupt him?

or would we corrupt him

I doubt it would make a difference at all

Unfastened Belts

I doubt it would make a difference at all

You do not believe it is possible to change behaviours with tulpamancy?

9:58 PM

Or do you not believe you can change behaviours with tulpamancy?

Sure it is, but in this particular case, that would seem to defeat the purpose?

The behaviour being your brain, not their model.

9:59 PM

I suspect if there are gaps inevitably Roger would either adapt or rebel

9:59 PM

But to be honest, a calm collected personality like that? I expect adaptation.

9:59 PM

Have you seen that man talk?

9:59 PM

Like watching paint dry.

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9:59 PM

:B

The whole thing about tulpamancy is that I simply have no desire to simulate conversation between two people inside my one brain. It just doesn't interest me

10:00 PM

Gotta clock in for work now, bye!

Zen

Like watching paint dry.

maybe that's why she doesn't want him as a tulpa

See ya.

Unfastened Belts

The whole thing about tulpamancy is that I simply have no desire to simulate conversation between two people inside my one brain. It just doesn't interest me

then why

Why what?

10:06 PM

Why did I try it back then? Because back then it seemed interesting to me

for you, tulpamancy is trans

11:23 PM

that's why you're tulpamancy

WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT

11:24 PM

YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO CHANGE IMAGES

sh

that's why you're tulpamancy

More or less

Zen

YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO CHANGE IMAGES

I had the same reaction

so you feel like if you leave the server you'll lose your gender which you don't want

11:31 PM

that's genius (if you are pleeb and want more ppl here)

sh

so you feel like if you leave the server you'll lose your gender which you don't want

If you don’t want to lose it in tulpamancy how would you lose it?

bemacbe

I had the same reaction

didn't you change your pfp earlier

11:32 PM

that's like watching a bald guy come back one day with a haircut

sh

didn't you change your pfp earlier

I did. You didn’t comment on it. And now I’m back to my old pfp but without glasses (edited)

bemacbe

If you don’t want to lose it in tulpamancy how would you lose it?

i forgot what i was talking about! move on already

bemacbe

I did. You didn’t comment on it. And now I’m back to my old pfp but without glasses (edited)

why are you the only one talking???? boring